she was probably making $50 a word compared to 2010, 2011. >> hannity and van susteren interviewed her 55 times for 3/4 of her appearances over the last 36 months. >> poor intern! oh, my god. >> john: i think eric, it augers for the future of fox news. your latest piece is entitled are conservatives rethinking the fox news outrage model. you make a good point that maybe, just maybe some of our republican brothers and sisters are sick about this all hissy fit, all propaganda model going on through fox. >> eric erickson who is fairly prominent conservative commentator at cnn, i believe one of the founders writes over at red state he wrote a piece last week saying you know, basically, let's drop this phony outrage thing. he did mention fox but it was obvious -- he was talking about outrage pimps on the left and the right. the entire column are about what he claims are these conservative town cryers on the right. he makes very good points. it does nothing to build the movement. it doesn't get anyone elected. it turns people off. it's awful to listen to. and -- >> john: do you really think